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everybody was fighting in the Reiki community. And I wanted to understand what's going on.
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This is extremely exciting, because it shows to me that the idea of reconciliation within the Reiki community has been on your mind
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- also with you having been involved and that you actually got involved to the point
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that you had Bert Hellinger personally make the constellation.
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I put all my heart, all my love into it and fairly recently I realized that I can't do it anymore and I want to reset.
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Like the way you reset an electronic instrument. So 'reset to factory settings'.
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Start new. Erase the disk. Start new. I'm tired. I don't want all this old stuff anymore. I want to be present.
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I want to pay more attention to here, to now, to my unravelling, my development, my deepening my human experience.
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So that's it.
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So you're right. My style is I usually take the second step before the first.
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And then, okay, sometimes when you do that you fall.
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Because I've always seen myself as the link between East and West.
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And it's a lot to carry.
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'What's going to happen now?' But I trust and I know that you can't escape from your destiny.
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You can't avoid it.
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It will catch up with you anyhow.
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If people should ask me personally to tell them in one word what I think, I consider my calling
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in life or in the sound incarnation is, I would probably say initiator, not teacher but initiator.
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You don't take your money, you don't take your wealth, your power, your fame, your ...
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I don't care about any of those things, but I care about this,
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what is going on inside that expansiveness in the heart.
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No, no, no! We don't pretend anything.
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Pretension hasn't helped anybody. We look at the things as they are.
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With a lot of authenticity.
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But I'm not a position. I'm just a human, just like anybody else.
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We want to shed light, we, the two of us, want to shed light on the past
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in order to nourish the reconciliation process in the here and now
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to liberate future generations from blemishes of the past,
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We are committed to honouring, even celebrating individual uniqueness
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is it possible that we never learn? How is that humanly possible? Because I grew up with the
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Then, of course, it's always been women who got me into trouble in my life, always.
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It's their fault. Nothing to do with me.
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So, I was doing the autogenic training. Then I learned about Zen Buddhism.
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And then I thought, 'Okay, they talk about meditation, these guys. What the hell is that?'
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'And how am I going to learn that? From whom?'
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I had a friend at school. His father, his dad was from India. And his mum was German.
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And he seemed different than other people. So, one day I asked him.
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I said, 'Hey, tell me, do you meditate?' I didn't really know what it was.
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He said, 'Yes.' Because I felt he was different. He was quiet and somehow centred in himself.
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And I asked him, 'Would you teach me how to do that?' He was a bit hesitant.
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At that time, my brother left Germany on the hippie trail,
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partly with a magic bus that went from London and Amsterdam to Kathmandu,
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overland and somewhere in Turkey he got off.
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He spent some time in Greece and in Turkey. Then he went overland from Turkey through Iran.
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This was just before the Russians invaded Afghanistan.
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He made it through Afghanistan and somehow he ended up in Poona
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with the notorious Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh.
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And then the first TV documentary appeared, people screaming and being completely crazy.
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And they showed this in Germany on television: this is what's happening there.
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And we're watching and we're thinking, 'Oh my God, now the boy has gone completely crazy!'
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Poor Martin!
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Poor Martin, now he has lost the plot completely. He was alwas eccentric and always a worry for my parents,
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because nobody could control him. And now he was in this insane cult.
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And we would go, 'Oh no, what are we going to do?'
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So we decided, my parents and me, that I would go and take a look if he is okay.
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You're 19 now?
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I'm 18.
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One worry less.
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And if he's not okay, see if you keep persuade him to come back.
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So I went in my spring vacation to Poona.
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I still remember entering the gate. They had this beautiful wooden, massive wooden gate.
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It opened up, when you walk in there, it was like 'boom', you entered like a time-warp space.
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I can't explain it. It was magical really.
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I took one look around and I thought, I never wanted to leave from here ever again.
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Magnetic to the max.
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I was looking at ...
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There were so many people, there were maybe 3000 people there at the time,
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working at the ashram, doing psychotherapy groups, doing meditations, meditation camps.
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Any kind of new age ... Anything that you could possibly think of you could receive treatments or sessions there, or learn it from really good people.
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So I looked around at the people at the ashram, and I thought, they really reminded me of those Zen kind of characters,
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I thought, 'I found my place, that's it, I want to stay here.'
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So instead of saving my brother, I saved myself.
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What an irony, you know, there he goes to save his brother in Poona and ends up staying there. I found that very amusing.
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I became his ... Osho's student, Bhagwan's disciple at the time at the time.
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At the time, there weren't that many people there, you could still talk to Bhagwan and he ...
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When I left, he said to me, 'So how are you? What have you done?' I said, 'Oh, I've done intensive enlightenment and some other
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groups similar to that, with some bio-energetics and things.' He said, 'Good. When are you coming back?'
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So, I'm looking at him, I go, 'I don't know' and he starts to smile and he says, 'Don't worry, I'm back at the right time.'
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I went back. Instead of bringing my brother, I come back in red clothes with the wearing a picture of the Indian guru,
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Very much like the situation I'm in now again, where I just really want to see
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who am I? And what is my purpose, and what is it that I really want to do?
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And then after about ...
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September, 5 months or so, I'm waking up in the middle of the night, laying on my back, I never sleep on my back, I always
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sleep on my right side, I wake up, I feel this very strong presence in the room, I think, 'What in the world is this?'
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I open my eyes and I see Bhagwan sitting in a big chair,
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kind of like this, that he looks at me, he says, 'Come back immediately.'
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I refused to go to the army.
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'What do you do when you meditate?'
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Somebody of the secretaries before my court case, had told me that the main judge was deaf,
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was a little deaf. So he said, 'You have to speak up!'
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I said, 'My dad, until three years ago, was screaming every night from his nightmares from the war. Do you have any other questions?'
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And he said, 'No, no, it's okay. You can go out and we'll call you back in.'
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I didn't even make it to the door, they said,
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'Okay, okay, okay, we really don't want you,
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Then one day, I thought, 'I did it. I'm finished. The garden is beautiful. It's functional. It's perfect.'
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So then I had to keep two people busy in the garden. I went to one of my supervisors,
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Australian man, Neha, one of my mentors. He was 20 some years older than me.
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I said, 'Look, I've been telling her for a year that I need help. And now ...
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You know the place. It's running. It's producing. What am I going to do with this extra person now?'
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He said, 'Make the garden so beautiful that the master can walk in at any moment and you don't have to feel shy.'
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When he said that, I had some kind of 'aha' experience.
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I thought, 'I'm going to make my whole life like that.'
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So beautiful, that the master or somebody like that, somebody who represents this clarity
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and this love and this beauty can walk into my life ...
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... and you don't need to feel ashamed.
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You don't need to feel ashamed. You can feel like, 'Okay, I did my best. With my mistakes.' I've been doing that ever since.
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Sitting close to him was a psychedelic experience.
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You cannot imagine.
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I mean, you were seeing things that were not there.
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Because his presence had such an impact?
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His presence is overpowering! I have never felt anything like that before or after.
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Incredible.
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So, Osho, still to this day, is your guru?
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Absolutely.
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Ok, the essence. What is his essence? Maybe the easiest way to say is: Be here now - be present.
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Don't act out of your past conditioning.
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We always think that we have free will and that we are acting out of the now but really,
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why are you not putting your hands on the hot stove? It's not your freedom of choice. It's because you've experienced it,
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So you're acting out of the past all the time.
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The mind that is ... The heart-mind that is in the present moment. And this is what Osho tried to teach us and this is what Reiki is for me.
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This learning to keep the mind in the present, not to let it slip into the past or into the future. It's everywhere.
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You just want to share that. For me Reiki is that.
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It is not about creating a big movement or making lots of money or having lots of students or becoming famous.
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None of that has any substance. But the thing is,
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Usui sensei's method comes out of enlightenment and leads to enlightenment.
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That's the purpose. Otherwise we're wasting our time.
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If it's just about curing a headache, take an aspirin!
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It's not about that.
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But the real thing is what is happening to you.
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How can you be yourself? This is what Reiki is to me.
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What I didn't understand then is that when you get touched with Reiki, somehow it touches your soul.
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... it tickles. It tickles your soul.
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Once your soul is tickled, you can't forget it.
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And then I forgot about it until one day in 1990 ... either end of '91 or beginning of '92,
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Raj, my brother, called me from Germany, saying that,
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'Hey, you know, Arjava, I think it would be good for you to do Reiki.'
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He was laughing and I'm thinking, 'Does he see something or realize?', because he's got psychic ...
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'Does he realize something that I don't see yet?'
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Anyway, we made an appointment. I came in the end of the year, end of December something.
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'92 I went to Berlin to learn Reiki in Berlin.
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I'm sitting and laughing to myself, 'What am I doing? I'm a German who goes ...
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who lives in Japan, who goes to Germany to learn a Japanese healing art, to take it back to Japan. It's crazy!
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So, I had to ...
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I had my good laugh there, thinking this situation is really ridiculous.
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But I went, I learned then Reiki 1, 2 and the teachers level in one week.
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I think probably it was four days or something like that.
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And I enjoyed what I learned and then took it back to Japan and the first person I initiated was Chetna.
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So I had my doubts. Basically, I started to research not because I wanted to write a book to become famous,
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not because I wanted to make a movement, make a change, become this or that, nothing at all, zero, nothing, no implication,
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no aim whatsoever in this direction. It was just the doubts that were sitting on my chest, going like,
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When we did the master initiation, and I taught her how to initiate others, she said,
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'This is too logical. We don't think logically. This was made by a Westerner, I swear!
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I am sure, because we don't think like that. It's so structured, it's so...'
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Japanese people, they think in wonderful quantum jumps. All of a sudden, you think ... 'How did we get here?'
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I love it, but it's really not logical. It's totally...
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No words, I don't have words. So, Chetna said, 'It can't be.'
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So we had this doubt. And out of this doubt we started to research more and more and more,
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and then people didn't know about Reiki, or they said, 'Oh, it's this American thing', that at some point I just thought,
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'It's all ... The whole thing, it's just fabricated, it doesn't exist.'
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And Usui sensei is a person who probably doesn't exist.'
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but for the practice of Reiki, it's not that terribly relevant to know the history.
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I benefited from that greatly. Like I said earlier, the bed was made.
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They come back next year and do teacher's training. And there were some people who had learned from Mitsui sensei.
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I was looking at the money and I was thinking, 'They didn't get as much as they gave me'.
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Because I was fresh, I didn't have experience, I didn't really know what I was doing. I didn't feel good about it.
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And I thought I need to give them more. I didn't feel good about it.
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I could see that I felt guilty thinking like 'Phoa!'.
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Then I really got into it. I started to research more, consciously.
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'Hey, are there any new books on Reiki? Do you know anything? Because this guy, one of my students, wants to do a book on Reiki.'
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And Raj said, 'Nah, nah, there's nothing here. You've got to do it yourself!'
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And I'm thinking, 'Ah!' So he often got me into really good things.
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Actually I took note of that, this ' go-write-it-yourself'. It must have been strong statement.
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So that was the birth hour of what would later become Reiki Fire, the first book.
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So we're going to the school and suddenly I see a white Toyota van with big letters: R, E, I, K, I.
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My heart goes trrrr! And I'm thinking in my mind, 'Oh my God, finally I got it.'
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So after that, it was kind of a key experience for me. I said, 'Okay, I give up.'
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Enough! I stop.
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I stop looking for it. I can't find anything.
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I had looked in the phone book in Sapporo. We had six pages of Usuis.
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In Tokyo, they had 30 pages in the phone book of Usuis! What you're going to do, call them all?
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Impossible.
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So then one day, I get a phone call from one of my earlier students. One of those people who had been eagerly waiting
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He later on founded the biggest Reiki school in Japan, Vortex, it was called. So Toshitaka called me and he said,
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'You know what? I have the phone number of somebody who's been practicing Reiki for 65 years!'
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'If you promise me that you don't tell where you got the number, I will give it to you.'
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So, he gives me the number. Then I talk to Chetna. I say, 'Hey, you know, how about ... Can you call this person now, this Mrs. Koyama?'
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So in the end she agreed, she called. Then the number ... The first thing that person on the other side says,
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'Where did you get this number?' I'm listening on the speakerphone thinking, 'Oh boy, what a bad start.'
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After a while - Mrs. Koyama understood that she wasn't going to say where we got the number - she relaxed a bit,
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but all the time she just said, 'What do you want from ME?'
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Then Chetna said, 'Ah, well, my husband is a foreigner.'
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'I don't care about Western Reiki, about Reiki that comes from another country.'
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I'm thinking like, 'Haw! What's going on here?' That was the first time I heard the word Western Reiki.
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'He's writing a book about the Usui sensei, because what is known outside is... We don't think it's right.
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It seems to be all myth and we want to make it right and fix it.'
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'I'm not going to read it!'
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I thought, 'Oh boy, she's very straightforward!'
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And then she said,
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'I've been asked so many times by people from outside, from abroad, to meet and I always refuse and I will refuse you too!'
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'Okay, Usui sensei was born 1865, August 15th in Gifu Prefecture. He was married, had two kids.
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He had a life of many ups and downs, big success, big failure. He was very warm-hearted. He was a good speaker.
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People loved to listen to him. People used to hang on to his clothes when he was talking. Because he can't ... '
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And that he was very funny, that his students were laughing all the time.
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But in the conversation she also told us that he was buried at the Pure Land Buddhist graveyard, temple plus graveyard in Tokyo.
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And in the tape that Takata sensei talked about the history, she also says that all the practitioners of Reiki in Japan died in World War II.
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There's nobody left. So, now we found at least the single one surviving member.
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This Mrs. Koyama, whoever she was.
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But she had given us ... the name of Usui sensei's resting place. So I thought, 'Ah, okay, maybe, maybe I can find something'.
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I said, 'Please check the Saihoji temple.'
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So she calls one, two. I don't remember. I think the third one. Finally the guy says, 'Yes, we have him here'.
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And then I asked, 'Do you know, do you know anything about him? What kind of person he was?
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Anything about his family's background, his work or so?' The priest says ...
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(speaks Japanese)
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'It's a beautiful grave.'
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'And you must come and see it sometime.'
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I said, 'Thank you. Do you know anything about the family?'
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He said, 'Well, would you like to ask them?'
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I went ... (nodding modestly). 'Okay, I'll give you the phone number and the address.'
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Five minutes ago, I knew very little. And now I have Usui sensei's grandson's address and phone number.
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And we went ,,, he took us there. And we arrived and suddenly I see this
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three, three and a half meter tall memorial stone with the inscription, two and a half meters wide.
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I'm standing there going, like, 'Oh, my God!'
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I see you now three years or so, you've been teaching Reiki in Japan ...
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I don't know at which point, but somewhere along the line it is said that it became apparent to you
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that the Western lineage operating from Raj had some doubts. And ...
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I find it difficult to formulate a question around this at this point, but we will get there sooner or later.
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In 1994 ... maybe it's a good time to address it - you have to tell me -
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because the question here revolves around you acquiring another Western line, because there was some question marks about Raj's.
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And I (the Usui sensei's grandson's wife) married him after his mom had already passed. And because of the clause in the will,
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the Usui Mikao was never discussed in our house. I know absolutely nothing. Zero. I know nothing.
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So, please don't dig around in this painful part of our family history. I would like to help you but I don't know nothing. Sorry.'
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So for example, what we know is that Usui sensei left one beautiful document, which is what he gave to his students.
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It starts with something that's called Kokai Denju. Kokai Denju means public teaching.
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It says, 'This is a declaration why I teach in public.' It's kind of Usui sensei's mission statement.
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It's quite dramatic. In it he says, 'In the past, when somebody had been given a spiritual secret by the universe as a present,
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it was the custom of them to use it for their family and for the financial well-being of the offspring.
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And I am breaking with this.
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I am stopping this because this is wrong. This is not the way it should be. And I will teach anyone!'
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And he broke with that. He didn't want that. So that could have been a reason.
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But I don't know. Maybe it was strictly personal. Maybe they didn't like each other. Who knows!
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And we are going like, 'Usui Reiki Ryoho Gakkai, what is that?'
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'Who is that?'
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And he said, 'Well, that's an association that Usui-sensei founded, and he was the first president of it.'
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He said, 'And my relative is one of the teachers.'
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'Let me call him and organize a meeting.'
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So then things became more and more complicated.
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Really complicated, because what he wrote about the history didn't match the history that I had learned.
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And when we heard about the practice it didn't match the practice that I had learned.
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Very soon I felt discouraged, cheated, let down, thinking that I have learned the completely wrong thing,
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and I will never be able to learn the right, 'right' thing.
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I was not happy, because I was a bit heartbroken. So now, about 30 years later, I'm looking at my hands, and I'm going like,
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'The Reiki that comes out of here doesn't have a label.'
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And it doesn't matter where I've learned it, and it doesn't matter where anybody for that matter has learned it,
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and it doesn't matter who their teacher is, and what their lineage is, as long as they have been properly initiated. It is all the same.
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Beautiful! So, you cannot learn the wrong Reiki, there is no wrong Reiki.
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I've learned meanwhile that unless you document it, it means nothing.
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I was frustrated in the beginning when we talked to Ogawa sensei, because I thought that I learned the wrong type of Reiki.
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I learned to do it wrong, not only the history but the practice. I learned it wrong.
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And I would never be able to learn the right way because I already knew from my knowledge of Japanese culture
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that the chances of being accepted into a traditional Japanese art as a foreigner are about this big.
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whatever comes out of those hands doesn't have a label. It doesn't have so-and-so Reiki.
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It doesn't matter whether you learned it from this person or that person, if you learned it from a Japanese person, from an American
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person, from an Inuit, it's always the same Reiki.
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So you don't have to wait for the waterfall to come to your house. Hopefully not. But you get the Reiki person.
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This is kind of a typical Shinto type of idea. Where the ancient people, they used to go to a Shinto sanctuary when they were not feeling well.
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The Shinto shrine is built around a natural phenomena. A beautiful tree, a spring, a waterfall, a beautiful rock.
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Where the people when they were not feeling well were going and leaning against the tree.
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(Deep sigh.)
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Suddenly feeling better. Because they were taking in that ... energy from the waterfall.
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You are the waterfall giving Reiki to the client. You are the big tree, the spring.
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The real value is in here, it's so intertwined with my life.
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And then very soon we found out that they had rules, very strict rules.
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One of the rules was, if you make your money with Reiki you cannot be a member.
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It's still a rule today. So that rules me out.
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You must have felt or even known that you're going to alienate a few people with 'Reiki Fire'. Why did you publish it?
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You know, I didn't think that at all. You know what I thought?
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I thought I earned the champagne corks flying through the air.
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I thought people would like it. I was very naive.
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I thought I was doing everybody a favour and people say, 'Finally we know something! How great.'
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That's what I expected, I didn't expect antagonistic things.
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'My teacher doesn't want me to mention their name ... for reasons that I really don't understand.'
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And I left it with that. Then the book had just come out, the 'Reiki Fire'.
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As you want, yeah. Well, the chapter ... the book came out and what you then experienced as a consequence?
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That is an important story. I would like you to tell the story. I would like you to have space and time
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to share with us the injustices which were done at that point. Because the public needs to know that.
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the 'Reiki Fire' came out in the spring of '97.
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A few months after it was out, I got a phone call from my old friend, Ageh Popat, who was also friends with Raj.
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He said, 'Arjava, I have to tell you something.'
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'I went out for a beer with your brother yesterday, and maybe he had one too many.
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And he said to me that he made up the attunement process, that he never learned it.
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He learned Reiki 1 and 2 and maybe 3A, the Master symbol but the attunement, he said, he made it up.'
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So, he made an appointment here in Switzerland to do the teacher's training with these guys who were, at the time,
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members of the Reiki Alliance.
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And then when he came back, he called me and said, 'Arjava, come quickly. It's all different from what we have learned. The initiation
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process, it's all different. Come and re-learn with me.'
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So, I flew to Germany to do the teacher's training again with Ageh. I just looked at my certificates, January 7th or 9th or something of '98.
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So I called my students and I said, 'Look, there's a problem with the lineage.
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I went to have myself re-initiated into the new teachers' training. And I'm happy to teach you.
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That's how we did it, but not everybody came.
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Not all the people who had learned.
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And some of those who did not come back and get re-initiated by you ...?
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They continued.
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They continued teaching?
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Teaching what they had learned from me the first time. Now, the problem is I never got to the bottom of that. I don't know.
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Sometimes there are personal mix-ups in between, things that maybe don't make sense to you,
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but just because you don't know the whole story.
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As I said yesterday, I had no intention of becoming a famous Reiki person.
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I just wanted to do people a favour and I thought with the publication of 'Reiki Fire' I'm doing them a favour,
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because suddenly now we know some things that can be documented about Usui sensei. We can set the history straight.
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The first reaction I had was I called my publisher. I said,
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'I've had enough! I'm not going to do another book or anything. I've had it. These people are all crazy. I quit.'
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Yeah, I have a kind of exhibitionist nature.
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(laughter)
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(laughter)
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'Reiki Fire' triggered a lot of controversy.
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an you follow my thought and my feelings?
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I don't really remember that much from then. It's a long time ago.
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And I guess I have changed.
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I've become ... I don't know, more relaxed or ...
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more centred in myself or so.
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Maybe I overreacted at times. Possible.
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You know, I heard on a number of occasions,
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'Well, Arjava has such an ego. I think that he published Reiki Fire really just to satisfy his ego.'
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And then you have those who continue to say, 'Well, he just wanted to make a lot of money and be famous. Ego!'
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But that other aspect deserves to be addressed.
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I don't care at all for fame. It ... is nothing to me.
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Nothing, nothing whatsoever.
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Truly, honestly from the depths of my heart. Nothing. Zero.
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The tone, I don't really understand why people got upset.
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Probably because, often I was making fun of them.
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And maybe that was not nice, but I was just making fun of them.
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I know that you mentioned Phyllis (Furumoto). I know that Phyllis was actually responsible; I didn't know that until very recently
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but she obviously knew it because part of her apology in the previous work I did is addressing the injustices she did towards you.
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because it's not an isolated incident in my life that people get upset with me.
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And I always ask her, 'What is it that makes people mad?' and she says to me,
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'You irritate people!'
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I want peace! I want peace, I want harmony, I want to have it all nice ...
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This is some kind of charisma. So okay, but still, what it is that pisses people off, that irritates them I really don't know. I can't say.
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Many times I have thought that I've completely wasted my life with something that is ... useless because the people are not listening,
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they're not ready to listen, they don't want to hear, they like to have fairy tales and don't want to see what actually happened.
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... People feel more comfortable with nice stories and all that. There are so many times I thought,
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So when it came out, after three days ... In German. So the book came out in German. After three days, I got a fax from Phyllis.
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Not very nice. If you want to see it, I have it here.
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Kind of threatening me and the publisher to take it off the market unless you're prepared for legal stuff.
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We have the memorial. We have found some people who are in Usui sensei's direct lineage. This is great, it's a great beginning!
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One time when Phyllis was asked in person by a friend of mine what to do with my books, she said, 'Burn them.'
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That was in Germany. It didn't go down well because people had a bad reference to that.
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You can't believe the things that happened. They tried to buy the whole first edition of the 'Reiki Fire'.
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And then they went on like that. My Argentinian publisher, he had his windows broken.
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Incredible. One time I was at a book fair. I think it was either with the 'Reiki Fire' or the next ... I think it was 'Reiki Fire'.
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I'm sitting at the book fair in Frankfurt at my publisher's booth. I was to sign books and give a little talk for the readers.
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And then behind me somebody called, 'Oh, oh my God, how can he?! How dare he?!'
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Of course I'm not connecting it to myself at all. So I'm just sitting there wondering what this person is raving on about.
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Then I hear one of the secretaries saying, 'Oh, hello, good morning. I see you have a problem with one of our books.
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Actually, the author is just sitting right behind you. Why don't you go and talk to him?' So I turn around, I look at her.
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She looks like she's looking the devil straight in the eye and starts running!
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Like sprinting, running through the book fair, running away from me.
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I'm standing there going like, 'Huh?'
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You know, we could have just had a nice chat.
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It was incredible. I didn't expect that at all.
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And, my question really is, you came from a Western Reiki. You knew all that. And you must...
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The same. Absolutely the same. But I...
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I liked it when you said, 'Ah, we were... I was conditioned in a certain way and indoctrinated and ... you broke that.'
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Yes, I broke that and I would do it again every time.
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Thank you for that.
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You need somebody to shake you up when you're in that slumber, you know? And that happened to be me.
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It's not because I'm great. I just stumbled into that. I tried to escape so many times. I tried to... say, 'Okay, I'm getting out.'
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And healing very often includes that first step. In fact, I call this the 'heroism of the victim'.
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So I felt of course that some injustice was done to me. I didn't stop with the 'Reiki Fire', I continued.
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It went on and on and on and on and on and on and on to the point where we had break-ins, where people's houses were vandalized,
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where all the books that I had written for people, autographed, were stolen out of the house.
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I mean, things where you think, 'That's not possible!'
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It's amazing! It's incredible. At some point we got threatening phone calls at home.
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My wife left the house when I was not home because she was afraid. It's incredible what happened.
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But what I really want to say is that I've had enough.
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I've had enough of the conflict.
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I had enough of the violence in different ways.
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I've had enough of feeling victimized.
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I've had enough of this constant friction.
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And I have no grudge to anybody. I just want to leave it behind.
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And you don't want to eat anymore. You know? That kind of enough.
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So I don't feel traumatized or anything by any of that. I came through all of this a better human being.
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More loving, more kind, more in my center, you know? And that's wonderful. I'm thankful and grateful for that.
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So whatever happened ... (gassho) ... thank you. It helped me a lot.
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Reset the little button on the electronic gizmos that says, 'Reset to factory settings.'
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Then the factory setting is ... (points to his heart)
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Your attention is in your heart and you are ... (opens his hands)
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present and...
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that's all I want. Now.
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I am also reminded of a situation when I was with Phyllis
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And indeed you were right when I spoke to you the very first time. Apologies need to be addressed in person.
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I fully agree with you.
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And so did she.
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It was actually a dilemma she had.
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The more important question, and I can't remember which she asked first, was, 'Is Arjava here?'
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And I said, 'No.'
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And she said, 'Oh, I'm very sorry. I wanted to meet him and have a direct conversation.'
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I know that the two of you never met. She then passed away.
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But she did ... Her apology was clearly addressed to you.
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And from my point of view, it would be wonderful if you accepted that apology.
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In the end, in the end, it all comes down to that.
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If two people have a conflict with one another, what should they do?
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Talk. Get together, talk.
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And don't wait until it's really poisonous and fermented nicely, you know, and stinky and all that.
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Don't carry it because then it becomes, as we can see in, in all of this, it becomes such a mess.
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So the best is just to talk.
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As I told you, my basic longing is for harmony deep inside.
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The confrontations that I cause ... I guess it's on the other side of the same spectrum.
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So one end you have the irritation. On the other you have the harmony. It's still the same thing.
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For me, I said it earlier, Reiki is Reiki is Reiki. It doesn't have a label.
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There cannot be a Reiki that is better.
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There cannot be a Reiki that is inferior.
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In Reiki, the Reiki person becomes that natural phenomenon to transfer the cosmic energy.
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And that cannot be by definition any different whether you do it or I do it or anybody else on earth does it.
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The race, the age, the gender, the whatever, it doesn't make any difference.
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No matter where you learned it, if you've learned it properly, okay, then it's always the same.
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For me, it's like that. So I have great respect ... for Reiki.
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Not for one special kind of ... type of Rei ... For me there is no 'type' of Reiki.
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Reiki is Reiki is Reiki.
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So when Ogawa sensei and Koyama sensei had died I thought, 'Phew. And now what?'
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Very soon afterwards I was given a book by one of Toshitaka Mochizuki's students, Aoki Sensei, also from my lineage somehow.
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In it he had an interview with one of Hayashi Sensei's students
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which turned out to be Chiyoko Yamaguchi. But her name was not mentioned.
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At the time the Reiki circuit was still small. We are in 1999.
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All the important players in Reiki we all knew each other, of course, and most of them came through my lineage anyway.
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So, the first person I called when I read the book was Toshitaka Mochizuki. He said,
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'I don't know who it is but I know Hiroshi Doi knows it. Why don't you call him and ask him? He knows who that is.
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He has seen her. He had told me.'
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So I called him and I said, 'Hey, in Aoki sensei's book, do you know who that is and if they are teaching?'
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He said, 'Yeah, I give you the number.'
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She was born in 1921, so she was 79.
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She'd been doing Reiki from age 17. So how many is that? 62 years of practice.
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'What happens to somebody who has been doing a lot of Reiki practice for many years? What happens to them?
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I found a different humility and humbleness. It was so beautiful. But simple. Super simple, not spectacular.
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And that I saw and that I loved. And when, after the first five-day training, I looked at her, I remember, I said to her,
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'You know, I'm very glad to have met a Reiki adult.'
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Beautiful. And it was so easy to learn in her ... in her presence.
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To me, to my understanding, the teaching never was her focus.
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The focus was always on the treatments.
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This was in, in 2000 in July, June or July, I did the first training with her and she had told me that,
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'You can learn only Shoden and Okuden, Reiki 1 and Reiki 2.'
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I was totally comfortable with that because I was thrilled that they would accept me as a student in a traditional school.
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I was like, 'Yeah, this is what I want.'
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Nice. I didn't think about becoming a teacher of Jikiden Reiki or anything like that.
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The thought didn't occur at all. I just wanted to learn the traditional style. And I loved it.
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'You know, if you work hard, you can do the first part of the teacher's training. It's called shihankaku. Next year, in one year.
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But you must promise me to work hard.'
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I said, 'I promise.'
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I was blown away.
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Then I asked her, so now we're in 2001, 'How many people have you taught the teacher's level in 2001?'
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And she said, 'None.'
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It's all the same. It's all the same.
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Really, just between us. I spent so much time with Osho, with meditation.
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And he destroyed my ego.
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I don't say I don't have one. I'm not saying that.
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But he destroyed it in the sense that I'm aware when it is speaking.
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I know when it's speaking. And then I'm there, I'm present.
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So, it can't fool me like that.
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And Chiyoko sensei used to say in their dialect in Ishikawa, where she was from, they didn't use to say,
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'I give you Reiki or I do Reiki, but I switch on the Reiki.'
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Like the light. She always said, this is like a light switch and the way it goes is on-off, like that.
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You put your hand on it and boom!
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But: essentially, Reiki is compassion in action, is for you to share your blessings with others.
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That's the traditional way of looking at it. It is not for you.
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Now, why is it not for you? Because in the Buddhist way of looking at things, there is no separate self. It is an illusion.
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And why should we encourage and strengthen that thing that doesn't exist?
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The 'me! me! me! me! me! me!' This has to go!
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It must go.
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You must destroy it.
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You must demolish that completely.
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That egocentric thinking.
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Don't support it. Cut it.
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So, the illusion really is which has to go? The illusion of separateness?
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The illusion has to go. You have to wake up from that dream.
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You wake up by not supporting it.
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By not taking more sleeping pills.
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But wake up, shake up!
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Reiki is not a technique. Reiki is just put your hand on it, finish.
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End of story.
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There is nothing better.
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How can your Reiki be better than mine?
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In the beginning in Germany or in the West when Reiki was spreading all over the world, there were some rifts
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between different Reiki schools and the direct Takata lineage to the Reiki Alliance.
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They had some kind of arrogance thinking we are the best and the others are no good.
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And ...(groaning)
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I didn't like that. I was having this allergic reaction every time I felt this arrogance of people thinking ... 'My Reiki is better than yours.'
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Because this, I can only say it again,
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what comes out of here is absolutely pure, unpolluted and unpollutable life force and it will be that from any Reiki practitioner.
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This for me was fantastic. This is what I wanted.
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And I learned that from her, how to do traditional style treatments.
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I imported the Western Reiki into Japan and then I exported the traditional.
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So that seems to be my role. And my role was also to fuse or be the bridge between East and West.
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I've tried it in my life in so many different ways. In my personal life I failed to fuse East and West.
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I was hoping the relationship would last forever. It didn't.
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And now I'm wondering if I, in my professional world,
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I also failed fusing East and West because it's complicated. It's very complicated.
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Maybe the two, after all, don't mix. Who said that?
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The basic trust in the benevolence of existence.
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I have that. I've had that since I was a child.
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So, in this way, I totally agree with what you say. I'm optimistic.
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I look forward to things unfolding in a new way.
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And that has turned out to be very, very difficult.
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Because they just don't understand each other and I'm sitting in between.
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Yeah, yeah. I can't do it anymore. I don't want to fight anymore.
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I don't want to have to make an effort all the time to bring people together and to ...
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help people understand each other.
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I'm tired of it.
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We'll see.
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No. Me? Of course, any time, especially if I can meet my wife again.
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Me, I know many people say, 'Oh, this is my last life or it would be nice to be ...' I don't want to finish this. This is so much fun.
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I'll be right ... like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know? 'I'll be back.'
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If you have energy to do something, 'Good, go ahead and do it!'
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So, it happened that way. So, the ...
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... business ...
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the teaching, the business got mixed into a family business. And that's always tricky.
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I'm not really concerned either. And I have no idea what I'm going to do.
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And I'm not really concerned with that either.
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That dynamic is there. And he said that, 'Okay, it's been a habit in the past that somebody who has
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received a spiritual secret as a present from the universe is then using that for the well-being of the financial well-being of their family and
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I'm breaking with that tradition now. And I do a different thing.'
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So for example, the people who followed Takata sensei, they were taught certain things that were not correct.
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Takata sensei changed - maybe for safety reasons for her own physical ...
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Survival.
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... safety, survival. And in that respect that was good.
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But then somebody comes who questions all of that. Me. Of course they get upset.
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I understand that. I would have been upset if I was in their position.
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They are always here with us. Usui sensei. Hayashi sensei - always present, being filmed with us.
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So I don't think there's a problem really. It's just really ego stuff.
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That ego stuff we are going to have to look at and solve.
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We cannot give the responsibility to somewhere in the past. We are making that. We are creating that.
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And we therefore can also mend it again.
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Can solve it. Exactly!
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but in Usui Shiki Ryoho, the Master symbol attained a present and a cherished value, which is part of my tradition and suits me very well.
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I'm not against it. It's beautiful. I know where it comes from.
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So, these three. Each one is represented by a Sanskrit seed syllable.
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Sanskrit seed syllable. A seed syllable is a syllable that has the ability to give birth to a Buddha.
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And when you put these three together, love, light and power, the ultimate principle is what they call in Kurama 'Sonten',
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which is the same as the Master symbol in Reiki. So, it's a very, very beautiful concept.
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I have no problem with that at all.
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If you were somebody insecure wondering, 'What do I do? I read in your book, there is no Master symbol. What am I going to do now?'
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I would tell them, 'You just keep using it the way you learn to use it.'
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And what is wrong with it? Nothing wrong.
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There's nothing wrong. It's beautiful.
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If you feel comfortable with what you do, you practice that.
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So, for me, Reiki is like football.
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And ... if we want to play football together,
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we need to have different teams.
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You cannot play with yourself.
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You need different teams.
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And if we want to have events, and if we want to have lots of fun, then we do championships.
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It's not about one being better than the other or beating, but to play together, we need many different players and many different teams.
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Reiki is the same. We need many different players and many different teams.
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And all they do is they play football.
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And let's not forget that.
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They do Reiki. Let's really not forget that.
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Fear ... fear is obviously one of the factors which plays a role in this, in this splitting, in this, 'I'm right, you're wrong.'
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Everywhere is the same!
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Do you have an answer?
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No.
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No, I don't.
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Do you have a remedy?
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Yeah.
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Sit.
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Meditate.
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Understand yourself.
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When you understand yourself or really when you understand the non-existence of yourself, then that stops.
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Then there is no enemy. What kind of enemy are we talking about?
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Another human, an enemy? Are you kidding me?
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If you had the chance to look at the universe from - I don't know what to call it, I don't know enough - from another universe or another ....
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galaxy or from another realm or something, what do you see? You see one beautiful, beautiful immensity.
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But how could you think of that as not being one?
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And I think one of the problems that we have in the international Reiki family is because of that. It's actually money.
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I'm not saying you shouldn't charge for your teaching. If I wouldn't charge for my teaching, I would be very, very skinny.
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I live from it. I have to charge.
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But there is something about ...
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So the thing is to learn to access the collective wisdom.
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High art!
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A high art.
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Which is our wisdom.
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It's not mine.
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People who are able to access that common wisdom, they seem to other people charismatic.
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a Swiss Jesuit priest, Pater Brantschen, came to my mind.
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The question was, 'Is there a life after death?'
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he's a Zen master and the Jesuit priest.
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So, right at the end he turned to him and basically asked him,
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'Look, you're Christian and they have the concept of hell. Would you like to say anything?'
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And this guy sat there for the longest time thinking, like you sometimes.
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Just taking your time to let people suffer in their own juices.
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(whispering:) Let them ferment.
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On TV that was quite something. And then he sort of looked into the camera and said,
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'I don't know whether there is a hell, but one thing I'm sure of:
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There's nobody in it.'
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Everybody's the same.
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Beautiful, really beautiful, so simple, and yet so difficult to implement in your daily life.
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Because we are driven by desire, we are driven by our dreams, by our lust for power, for domination, for all that. It's incredible.
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And our insecurities.
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I don't think you can ever not fulfil your mission.
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Perhaps. But it is what it is. You do what you can, you do your best.
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And sometimes that best is good, and sometimes it's not good enough.
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When I'm here, I give myself as fully as I can.
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I have no other agenda. I'm here for you and the project and the cameras.
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And I know that sometimes it's just not good enough. And I accept that.
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What would you today say to Phyllis? If you had to meet her today, what would you tell her, if she had to walk through the door?
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I have no idea. I don't know.
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I don't know, it's really hypothetical. So I have no idea what I would do.
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Something, I'm sure I would do something.
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Who knows, probably I would just go and give her a hug and say, 'Okay, let's leave all this behind and start new.'
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But I really don't know, because honestly I don't know.
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The funniest situations when you yourself have to laugh because you didn't expect it.
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I like that. I enjoy it.
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Absolutely, but what you have to do is you have to reflect.
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So don't take just any kind of rule that is imposed on you by someone, maybe by your culture, or by the way that your teacher thought,
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or their teacher thought, or by something. Always question!
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Look inside. Now, when I'm told not to do this or not to do that, I check with myself.
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He said, 'For you it's important to always filter everything you hear from other people through the wisdom of your own heart.'
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And when that suits you, when that is on the same wavelength as your being, then okay. Otherwise ...
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out the window.
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I'm not here to say what you should or what you shouldn't do.
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For me, it's always about when I'm confronted with a rule or a ...
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... rule ...
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a standardization or rule, I ask myself, 'How does that sit with me? Does it suit me?'
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Something that I would never touch, that is sacred to me!
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That I would never change.
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I would not change one bit of that.
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I want it like that. I don't want it any other way.
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I just love people.
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My heart is there.
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I admire your very strict consequence of following your heart even at dire cost.
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Like you just described.
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Especially then!
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Of course, that's when the chips are down.
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That's, that's when you have to do it!
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The prison begins in the moment that you think that you are in it.
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They never ... They too, never come back in that same way. They are unique. As you are, you are absolutely unique.
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This alone is an incredible statement: You are unique! Wow!
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Each of us.
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Celebrate that.
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Wow.
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So, the past trauma and the past pleasure and the past in between those two, it makes us do what we do now.
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The free will happens when the mind - and mind in Japanese philosophies is these two: heart-mind -
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when the heart-mind is in the present, the 'nen.'
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That's important! It's not just the intellectual mind.
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No, it's both.
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We think, feel, and that happens from here.
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When you can manage to arrest the mind, so the mental and emotional processes, and
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we can arrest them in the present moment, then you're good.
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Okay, we are not concerned what other people do or think.
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Let them do what they want to do.
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I'm not concerned with the unethical or different behaviour of other people.
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What I am concerned with is with my unethical behaviour.
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Also, many people like to have a leader, a captain of a ship,
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who leads and takes decision. Which is understandable, too.
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It doesn't really matter whether the hands are like this or like this or like this or like this, doesn't matter at all.
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It's all the same once the light goes on, the light goes on.
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I noticed that while the master is there,
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there are very few rules and the standardization really begins after the master is gone.
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So we need to have some kind of standards, but as little as possible.
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To leave a lot of space for freedom. So for me, rules are rules or standards are ...
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[laughs]
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Okay, I'm not really ...
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someone who likes associations much.
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Sounds funny from somebody like me.
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Who was the vice president of an association?
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It's not really my thing, but I know that it's necessary.
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And I know that it's good for people, and I know that people want to be part of something,
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I don't have a political mind. I can't. I can't do it.
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My question was also going a little bit in the direction of what would you say if your students, your Jikiden students came to you and said,
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'I want to be a member of an inclusive organization and share my knowledge with other members of that association who come from
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other Reiki learnings and traditions, and be collaborative with them?'
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I always encourage people to do it, even though I didn't want to do it, because it doesn't suit me.
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So, I always encourage them. And you know, in ProReiki, for example, a lot of the people who were involved in that
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were my students and people who were close to me.
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I always encourage them.
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I think the idea is good. It's just a personal thing that I'm not good at political organizations.
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I just... It's not my style. I feel uncomfortable.
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We have all our churches, our religions that began with some charismatic leader,
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somebody who had transcendental wisdom, beautiful teaching.
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And no matter where you go, whether you go to Islam, or to Hinduism, or to Buddhism, or to Christianity, or to ...
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Judaism, wherever you go, it's all beautiful. When you really go into it deeply, all of it is just fantastic.
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But then with time, only the bones remain
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and the real inside, the heart of it just starts to disappear.
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It's always a danger when the organization becomes more important than the thing that is being organized.
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How do you avoid that? I have no idea. I really don't know.
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I'm not my position or something. I'm a person.
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I'm a human person and for me, all Reiki is good.
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I really don't care for labels, not at all.
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And for me, inclusion is not something that we need to strive to, but it is something natural,
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because I know that everything is connected to me. I don't have to make an extra effort.
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I know this whole thing is all one.
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Very beautiful statement.
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In the 25 years that I've been with them. Me, that I've been involved in Reiki since 92 .... So how many 33 years? 33 is a good number.
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Canon, the number of Canon, 33 words.
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So I've been involved in Reiki for 33 years. I've had a lot of conflict as we discussed a little bit about.
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I have not had a single court case and I'm not planning on ever having one. It doesn't interest me.
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It doesn't interest me.
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I wonder whether you know the people on the picture.
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Some of them I know, yes, of course.
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Some of them. The only one that I've met is of course, Doi sensei.
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Doi sensei.
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The others I know what they look like, but ...
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And we have Phyllis with her wife, Joyce.
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Her I don't know.
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And we have Hyakuten Inamoto at the back.
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And this is a German gentleman, a scholar.
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I don't know him.
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Olaf Böhm, his name is.
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He's a serious historian.
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I'd love to see such a picture and have Tadao Yamaguchi on the picture as well.
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So when I met Chiyoko sensei and Tadao sensei,
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I had the impression they didn't really realize what they had. In terms of Reiki.
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Tadao sensei often was looking at me or Chiyoko sensei was looking at me going like,
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'Why you make such a big deal of Reiki? It's the most simple thing in the world.'
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Which on one hand was the innocent way of ... the innocent way they dealt with it.
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And on the other hand, it was also somewhat ignorant. They didn't realize how special their life, their family really was.
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Because they didn't realize how big this had become outside of Japan.
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They really had no idea.
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The first time I went to Taniai to Usui seinsei's birth village,
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probably nobody knew that Usui sensei, one of them of this small place, was known all over the world.
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They had no idea.
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And part of the conflict, I am sure, is this: jealousy. Part of it.
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But I'm also sure that not all of it is that.
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It's never just one is right and the other is wrong. There is no such thing.
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So if people don't talk to each other and if they don't work things out between each other, there is nothing we can do.
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No, I've learned this in my life that when people have conflicts with each other, I leave it respectfully with them.
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They are to take care of it. And if they do, great [Gassho], nice, good job.
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And if they don't, that's too bad.
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But what to do?
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But don't take those conflicts onto yourself.
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So if I have a friend whom you don't like, that's fine. If I have an enemy whom you like, that's fine.
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Let's leave the ... in German we have such a good word for that: 'Altlast'.
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It means like an old debt.
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Old burden.
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An old burden. Leave those things where they belong ... with people and don't take it.
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Onto your own.
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So now we come to reconciliation again, our subject.
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When other people have issues with each other, just get out of there.
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Let them deal with it. It's not your responsibility. Okay, we do our best to bring people together.
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And the funny thing is that - we've already talked about it a few times - I seem to be a polarizing factor.
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When all I want really is to bring people together. That's what I really want.
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What people often overlook in a reconciliation process is, forgiving doesn't mean forgetting.
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And ...
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If I forgive, it doesn't mean I agree.
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So what we need to do is we need to give it back where it belongs, with love and with respect
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and not allow that to disturb the biological and the human love which is beyond any of that.
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This is the thing and this is again reconciliation.
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So when you said, when Phyllis comes in or anybody else whom I have or had a conflict with,
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so you're ready to leave that all behind and just meet as two human beings.
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Let's say the only two left on planet Earth, what you're going to do, you're going to fight? Are you stupid?
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So the two of you left, you're going to fight with them?
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You've got to be joking. So think of it like that.
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You then thought, if that is the rumour, I'd like to clarify it. Please.
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Absolutely, I never signed anything and I never will.
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I stick to my truth, to what I heard from Chiyoko sensei.
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And I didn't sign any papers.
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Rumours ...
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it's always people talking about people and subjects that they don't know.
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We're going to have to accept that that sort of thing happens. And that ...
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it's unfortunate.
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One of the main underlying principles of that is,
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in any kind of conflict, you always avoid casualties.
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This must be your main objective, to avoid casualties! Not to have casualties, but to avoid them.
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And that when you have your opponent in the corner,
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you open the door for them so they can go out unharmed.
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I have always followed that.
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So as far as I know, the Jikiden Reki teaching didn't change at all. Not at all from what I learned, it's the same.
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Exactly the same, no change.
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Jikiden Reki: The word 'jiki' means 'direct' or 'straight',
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'den' means 'teaching' or 'transmission' and really means 'traditional'.
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The teaching is still exactly the same, nobody has changed it.
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Actually, maybe the word Jikiden - and maybe it's worth to elaborate, because very often non-Jikiden practitioners,
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they have the feeling that Jikiden means 'authentic', 'true'.
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When Chiyoko sensei was found by other people who had previous Reiki experience.
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They thought, 'Ah! She learned from Hayashi sensei. It would be interesting to learn from her to see her point of view.'
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All of us thinking, 'Phoa, we can learn from the source.'
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As close as possible.
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And then they asked her, 'So now when you teach us, what are you going to call this?'
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And she said, 'Reiki is Reiki is Reiki. I would call it Reiki.'
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Then the people said, these were Japanese Reiki practitioners, they said, 'Ah, sensei, you don't really understand the point here.
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When you have a baby, you can't just call it 'baby', but you have to give it some kind of name.' And she said, 'No, no, Reiki is Reiki.'
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At some point somebody asked her, 'What is the difference
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between what maybe we may have learned and what you will be teaching in the future? How will you be teaching?'
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And she said - she used an adjective - she said,
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'I will be teaching jikiden', which means 'what I learned from Hayashi, I will not add my own stuff.'
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So when ... If you want to Google the word jikiden minus Reiki, you find all sorts of Japanese martial arts schools who say,
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'I'm teaching what I learned from my sensei.' Not my own technique, like, let's say, Hiroshi Doi. No judgment.
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So that's his choice. He's comfortable with that. Chiyoko sensei said,
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'I'm not comfortable with making my own school or cocktail, but I will teach what I learned as good as I can from Hayashi sensei.'
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Jikiden Reiki is not a different type of Reiki.
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Like people ask me, they say, 'Oh, I hear you do Jikiden Reiki. I do Usui Reiki.' And I'm like, 'No, please!'
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We all do Usui Reiki.
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But Jikiden is just the name of the school. It's not the name of the Reiki.
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Actually, it wasn't even a name proper. Like you said, it was an adjective. Like when we were speaking, it's how it was handed down.
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I think this is an important clarification.
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Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Thank you for asking that.
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So, when she said, 'Well, you know, I'm going to teach jikiden, the way I learned'
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then somebody in the room, I don't know who it was, said, 'That's a good description. Why don't you use it?'
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That's how they came up with Jikiden.
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But when I say that in my practice we have this, in my practice we have that,
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I'm just talking about my practice, the way I do it.
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And I'm not saying mine is better than yours.
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So, my suggestion to anybody is that whatever you do,
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whatever your practice is, you do that, this is your path.
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You work on that and if you feel comfortable with that, don't worry about what other people do. It's totally insubstantial.
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It doesn't mean anything.
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There is no Reiki that is better than another one.
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So it's really ... The issue is always between right and wrong - moral ethics - better or inferior.
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And we always play on people's deficits,
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instead of encouraging people to see their perfection.
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This is what I see.
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So in the end, you can close your eyes and say, 'I've done my best.'
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We don't have a problem with the truth. People always ... often think because of my work,
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I have some personal dislike or agenda with Takata sensei. Not at all.
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I ...
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know she had a job to do and she did that job.
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And without her, like we said, we wouldn't be here. So, so far so good, wonderful.
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But I also know that she adjusted some things in the teaching and in the history. And I have a problem with that.
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I don't have a problem with her. For God's sake, I never met her. How can I have a problem with her?
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Reiki is ... I can only quote Koyama sensei again, 'satori no michi', the road of enlightenment.
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That's the point.
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Everything else is insubstantial.
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And all the little ego quarrels here and there.
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Okay, they are just part of the game. Without it, maybe it would be boring.
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A few ripples on the ocean.
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We need them.
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We need the two egos scratching, polishing each other.
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So they become like two raw diamonds polishing each other.
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So they become more luminant, more shiny, more beautiful.
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That's the point.
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Because the ego is being scratched off.
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So look at it like that and we are all okay.
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And in this little book, I think four or five times she says, Koyama sensei says,
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'I think that Usui sensei's greatest achievement was that he didn't create a religion.'
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When I read that, even though I read it again and again, every time I read it I was like, 'Phew, I agree.'
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Because Reiki is for everybody.
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On Usui sensei's memorial it says, 'Reiki will heal the world and its people.'
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So Reiki is for everybody.
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And in Reiki, in the Reiki teaching you find concepts from all the four big schools of thought in Japan.
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That's just because Usui sensei took from the wisdom pot that he had, which is those four big teachings,
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and took a piece from here, a piece from there, a piece from there.
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He did that very cleverly to include everybody.
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So he was very clever in putting things together and making it comfortable for everybody, for all his people.
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And now that we are also involved,
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But we can stay as we are. We can be Christians, we can be Muslims, we can be Hindus,
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we can be Jews, we can be whatever and be comfortable practicing Reiki.
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We don't have to subscribe to a certain view. We don't have to change our worldview.
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Everybody can do Reiki 'who has been given a soul'. And that's what Usui Sensei said and that's all of us, everybody.
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So that is a gift coming from Usui which he's given to us,
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which has liberated us and which holds the promise of reconciliation beyond the boundaries of culture
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and the borders of race and the gender issues we have.
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So this would be my advice to anybody. Come to peace with yourself. When you are in peace, there is peace everywhere.
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Usui sensei made a beautiful contribution to that by creating something that can facilitate this finding
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of the inner peace to anybody regardless of their religion, of their background, of their social status.
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Fantastic!
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So let's keep it that way and not put a label on it.
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Reiki cannot be labelled.
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I think now is the right time, so it's good.
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People think that I'm super wealthy, I have this big organization behind me, this big machinery.
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But I'm a one-man show.
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It's just me. I don't have a secretary. I organize my own flights, my own schedule, everything.
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My email, my correspondence.
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So, a lot of this is not because I don't want to answer. It's just I can't. I have too much.
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I cannot. I can't handle it.
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The volume is way too big. It's just like that.
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I thank you very much for the love you exude, I can bathe in and I hope you feel equally or you felt equally comfortable.
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[Laughter]
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Thank you for all the people who sponsored to help us with the project. To make this possible.
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And of course, thank you to those of you who are watching it.
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And go out and spread Usui sensei's message.
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Which is putting your love, spreading your love around.
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With the people that you teach, with the clients that you touch. That's what he wanted.
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It must have been something that he ...
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That was important to him because on his memorial it says that
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Usui sensei put himself on level two.
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The first level, the first level of Reiki ...
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is empty.
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There's nobody.
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Usui sensei said to his students, his teacher students, those who were Shihans and Dai Shihans,
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'Never stop learning, always continue learning from every student, from every client that you touch.
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You keep learning, and if you give yourself fully, then maybe one day you will surpass me.'
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And that for ... a teacher in a Japanese tradition!
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It's not jealousy! It's gratitude and thinking, 'Wow, how beautiful.'
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So the first place remains empty and open and luminous forever.
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How beautiful is that?
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It destroys the whole hierarchy.
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Exactly right.
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And puts you into the right place where you belong.
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And it emphasizes the self-responsibility of the student.
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And it doesn't give a false pretence, there is a singular unit.
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So, there is no illusion about an entity who has all answers.
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You are actually invited to find your own answers.
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To me, this is very close to the essence of Reiki of being continuously on the path.
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And I understood where he was going, the moment you think that you have reached something
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- and I have had experience like that where I thought I've reached some kind of state, inner state -
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you're wrong.
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You're wrong and you're asleep.
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Again, you must wake up again. And you need a slap.
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But this is, I think, the most important ability to nourish, to develop in your life,
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to always reflect back, go back in and open your heart as much as possible.
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I remember once somebody asked me in the lecture, we had a question-answer session afterwards,
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'What's the best way to protect yourself?' I said, 'To open your heart as much as possible.'
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That's the best defence.
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