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Predicament
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‚We do it completely differently.‘ (Fumio Ogawa)
‚If you make your money with Reiki, you cannot be a member.‘ (Gakkai rule)
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You just showed me documents and actually one of the questions I have here was …
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I’m writing the years around ’95 to you up and running up to your publication of ‚Reiki Fire‘ and ’99.
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When you unearthed all these sources for your literary work starting with ‚Reiki Fire‘,
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but also for the Usui Handbook, you must have accumulated many documents, obviously you have.
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Do you have your own archive? Did you give it to the Jikiden Institute’s archive?
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This question is a loaded question in so far that obviously there are scholars and researchers out there
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who as you said earlier on, everybody finds their own story today.
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But giving scholars the benefit of the doubt that they’re coming from the right spot,
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doing proper research and peer-reviewed research, how far are your documents accessible to other researchers, to other scholars?
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How far is the Jikiden Reiki’s archive, if there is such a thing,
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prepared and willing to collaborate with other scholars?
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So, it’s not being done professionally at all.
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So, most of my research is in here.
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And research … what is it called? Laboratory.
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It’s in here.
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I keep all the documents that I’ve collected.
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I told you before, I am by birth a Virgo. So, I’m kind of … a rat by Chinese (horoscope).
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So, I collect things, I organize them, I keep them where I can find them.
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So, I have all this stuff in my office and I have copied a lot of it, so I have it digitally,
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but no one has access to that except me.
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And nobody knows where it is, only me, not even my wife. Not because I’m not telling her, but she isn’t really concerned with that.
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She knows that she can find whatever needs to be found, because everything is Virgo style labelled.
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So, it’s easy to find. If you go to my office at night, you break the windows, you can just walk away with all of that stuff.
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So, it’s not kept somewhere at the Jikiden Reiki Institute or so.
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I had thought a few years ago to let go of a lot of the articles that I have written,
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articles that had been written about me or advertisements that I was thinking to
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either throw it all away or give it to the Institute, but then I didn’t follow up on that.
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So, it’s still all in my office in Greece sitting there.
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I don’t really know what to do with it.
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Well, we’ve seen that these things become of value very often after a person has died, of course.
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Then all of a sudden – we’ve seen it with Phyllis’s…
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(pantomimes a shooting)
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We’ve got your computer here!
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And we know where to break in to get the rest. Thanks for the manual.
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We don’t have a safe and all that. I don’t know how important any of this really is.
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The real value is in here, it’s so intertwined with my life.
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I don’t even think it’s so important, but one of the research projects is this, what we’re doing now.
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So, a lot of the information will go out to people who are interested.
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Then we’re good and then my office can burn down.
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This is precisely why we’re talking for many hours, we could abbreviate it to some juicy things,
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but I want to document the whole thing, because there’s so much small titbits of information
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that are valuable and this is a good way to document them.
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Now, I have you down still in 1996/97 teaching Reiki.
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And from these many sources which you have now received information from,
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you probably constantly included new information into your own teaching.
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However, your own origin was still a Western origin, Reiki style,
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leading back to that which you learned originally from your brother Martin or Raj.
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And now is maybe a good time to start talking about your other Western line,
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and I can tell you what my next question will be: How did you resolve the dilemma of having a new Western Reiki line while
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there were students out there who have been taught in the Raj line? So that’s basically two or three questions put into one.
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So let’s start with the first thing.
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I’m sitting there thinking, ‚Whoa! I learned the wrong thing. How do I deal with this?‘
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So the Usui Association probably is not going to take me in. For sure not.
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And then very soon we found out that they had rules, very strict rules.
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One of the rules was, if you make your money with Reiki you cannot be a member.
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Is this is still today a rule?
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It’s still a rule today. So that rules me out.
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Even if I wanted to become a member, I cannot. Plus:
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when you become a member and you are a teacher – if they teach you the upper levels –
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then you can teach only in the Association, not outside.
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And I cannot do neither the first nor the second, so I can never be a member of that.
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So, we had this contact with Ogawa sensei.
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And I thought, ‚How can I feel better? How can I feel better?‘
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And I thought, ‚Shizuko, my friend, she has really a very, very beautiful touch when she gives you Reiki treatment or whatever treatment‘.
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Once, she had learned something new when I was visiting her in Tokyo. They were doing healing with an iron.
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Like an iron … ?
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For clothing!
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It was incredible! I was just hanging on the massage table and she was ironing out the kinks in my muscles.
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Really very skilful! So I thought,
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‚Ah, maybe the best thing to do is to ask her to give Ogawa sensei a treatment the way that we do it and see what he says.‘
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So after all the intellectual questions, what about Hayashi sensei, Usui sensei, Takata sensei, the symbols, the blah blah blah …
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‚How about something personal? Personal hands-on stuff?‘
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So she gives him the treatment. After the treatment, he opens his eyes and says,
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‚Ah, so nice! I feel energized … so many different places in the body. Ah, very nice. I feel so good.‘
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He was 91, 92 at the time.
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‚But we do it completely differently.‘
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(groans in despair)
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And I’m thinking, ‚Oh, I opened a can of worms!‘
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But then, instead, he started to show her how they do it.
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And he taught her techniques, which are techniques that I’ve been teaching for many many years as so-called Japanese-Reiki techniques.
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They come from Usui sensei and he started to teach them to Shizuko and Shizuko and taught them to me.
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So, these techniques
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– and I’m sorry that I answered this Japanese-style beating around the bush and coming to the point after half an hour, now is the point.
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These techniques I included after I practiced them for a while in my teaching. For example, gassho meditation
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focusing on the point where the two middle fingers meet, breathing exercise, cleansing and so on.
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So slowly, slowly I included more things that I thought had been missing from what I previously learned.
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Translation: AI
Transcript: René Vögtli
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