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Silenced by Blood
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‚He was so mad. And I didn’t know why.‘
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And now to the second part of your question.
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What about the second Western Reiki lineage and how did you deal with that? How did you do this?
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So I would have to look it up.
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No, I don’t have to look it up.
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Because I checked it yesterday.
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I did my second Reiki Teacher’s training with Aghe Popat in Hamburg on the 7th of January ’98.
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Even after the release of … ?
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After the release of ‚Reiki Fire‘.
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After. Until then I had no idea.
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We have to go back a little bit for some clarification.
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So, in ’96 …
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In 1996, I got a phone call from Walter Lübeck while I was teaching English.
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My secretary answered the telephone and there was this German guy said ‚I want to talk to Frank.‘
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And she said ‚Sorry, not possibly. He’s teaching. Call back in one hour.‘ And he said
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‚No, I’m not calling back. I want to talk to him now.‘
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The Japanese secretary didn’t know how to handle this.
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So, she just came into the class and said ‚There’s an urgent phone call for you. Please take it.‘
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And then somebody else took over the teaching while I talked to Walter.
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To cut a long story short, he liked what he heard from me and about my research, I told him some things.
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And he said ‚You know my publisher in Germany they might be interested in doing a book with you.‘
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My original idea to do the book in Japan was cancelled because
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after the first translations into Japanese of the ‚Reiki Fire‘ were given to me I saw that they had completely changed the text.
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The publisher had this idea there was a Qigong boom in Japan at the time, of Chinese Qigong.
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They wanted to do a book saying,
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‚We have our own Japanese style Qigong, ‚Reiki‘ and it’s much better than the Chinese. So we don’t need the Chinese stuff.‘
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That’s what they wanted. And I didn’t want to be part of that because it’s not true.
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That’s all the same. All is good.
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So I told them ‚No, I’m not interested‘.
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We cancelled that idea. We didn’t have a real contract, it was all just done verbally.
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Anyway, when Walter talked to me in 1996 and he said ‚I think my German publisher would be interested in that‘,
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I’m thinking ‚Why would they be interested in that? There are already three or four books on Reiki. Why in the world would you
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want to have another one, a fifth book on Reiki, for what? I mean what else? What else do you want, it’s enough.‘
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He said ‚No, no, no, they must be interested. I would call them if you want.‘
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So, he made a connection to the publisher for me, the Windpferd publishing company
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who works in collaboration with Lotus Press in the US.
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So when the publisher had read the manuscript they really liked it. They said,
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‚Oh my, you, that’s so nice. We’ve already published three or four books on Reiki in Germany. And we would love to have yours
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but you must have given it to so many other and bigger companies. What you say?‘
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And I went, ‚I haven’t given it to anybody except you and I never thought of it.‘
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I wanted to publish it in Japan. I had no mind to publish in Germany, in America and all. It never crossed my mind.
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And they said, ‚If you really would give it to us we’ll send you a contract.‘
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Boom! And suddenly I’m like ‚Huh … ha!?‘
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The prophecy that comes true now which you friend …
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Which my friend had said but of course we don’t know how it’s going to go.
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I was totally surprised. No desire to become a famous Reiki person. Nothing whatsoever.
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It just was my doubt really that created that.
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Another thing that people often misunderstand is … People think that those of us who write we know a lot.
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But that’s not true. We don’t write because we know. We write because we know nothing.
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And in the writing process hopefully you gain some clarity.
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So, when I have a conflict with somebody or with something or something I don’t understand, my wife says,
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‚Arjava, take it easy. Go … ‚ – The Greeks say, ‚open‘ the computer – ‚Start the computer and write something.‘
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Because she knows that’s how I process, how I understand, how I hear.
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By writing I -hopefully- I’m writing to understand the subject.
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That’s such an important message and I so much agree.
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I often jokingly say, ‚That’s why God invented that little ‚x‘ on the computer on the top right end of the screen.‘
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You need to go through the process of writing it. But then there is a point where you have to decide:
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was it just for me, for my own learning process and therefore I can now click on the X and delete the whole thing?
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Or I’m going to publish it?
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So why … I’m jumping the gun a little bit but …
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You must have felt or even known that you’re going to alienate a few people with ‚Reiki Fire‘. Why did you publish it?
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You know, I didn’t think that at all. You know what I thought?
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I thought I earned the champagne corks flying through the air.
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I thought people would like it. I was very naive.
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I thought I was doing everybody a favour and people say, ‚Finally we know something! How great.‘
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That’s what I expected, I didn’t expect antagonistic things.
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But let’s go back a little bit, because there’s some important information that I haven’t shared yet.
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So, when I made the contract with the German publishing company, of course the first person I called was Walter to say,
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‚Thank you so much for making that contact. I’m overwhelmed. I didn’t expect that.‘
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And the second person I called was Raj, my brother, saying,
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‚You won’t believe what happened! They took it! They want it. They’ll publish it. I can’t believe that.‘
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At first he seemed happy about it.
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But then he left me a message on the answering machine the next day and said,
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‚Please call me again. I have something we want to discuss with you.‘
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So I’m calling him and he says to me,
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‚Yeah, great that they will do your book, but you can’t mention my name as your teacher.‘
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And I’m like, ‚Ha!? Why not?‘
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I had asked him once, ‚Where did you learn Reiki?‘
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And he had kind of brushed me off saying, ‚Oh, it was a friend of so-and-so. Someone called Miten from Hamburg.‘ Not the musician.
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And he was … ‚Don’t ask again.‘
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So I thought, ‚Okay, maybe it’s not important.‘
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So he said, ‚You can’t use my name as your teacher.‘ And I said, ‚Ha, why not? I mean, I learned from you. Why not say your name?‘
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He said, ‚Ah, You don’t know what it’s like. It’s a controversial book. I am here in Germany. I’m vulnerable. You are far away,
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nothing is going to happen to you. I’m going to get a little shit for you because I’m your brother.‘ And:
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‚I have a friend, somebody I know, he was going to publish a book about the symbols and he died in a very mysterious circumstances.‘
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I’ve heard that story.
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And I’m there listening and I’m thinking, ‚What is this story? How weird is this?‘ And I said,
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‚Look, that is your opinion. It’s not mine. And that’s your style. And it’s not mine.‘
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He said,
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‚No, no, you don’t understand. You have to say that you learned from somebody called Walter Just, your teacher was Walter Just.‘
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I said, ‚Look, I don’t do this. I don’t lie. I don’t.‘
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He said, ‚That. You’re not to use my name at all!‘ He hung up and I did talk to him for five years after this.
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He was so mad.
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And I didn’t know why.
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But I found out later.
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So, I called my publisher. I said to her, Monica,
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‚I’m so sorry. I have a problem with my brother who said that … I learned from him but I shouldn’t use his name. What do I do?‘
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She said, ‚Look, we had something like that before with the …
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when we were publishing another book, some other subject. Legally, he cannot. Because it’s true you learnt from him, so you can write it.
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There’s nothing. Nobody can tell you not to say where you learned something, if it’s the truth. But for the sake of the peace in the family,
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just take his name out. We write it, we have still some time for printing … Sorry. Sorry for you and for the conflict. Don’t take it personally.‘
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She always was incredibly supportive to me.
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Very, very sweet, very professional and very calm.
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Always making sure that you’re okay. So, I said, ‚Okay.‘
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So, I rewrote. I took all the parts of Raj out of the book because he was appearing there all over the place. Raj said this, Raj said that,
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then we did this, then we did that.
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But I didn’t feel comfortable not saying anything about the lineage.
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I wrote something that many people saw, which was one sentence. I said, ‚The name of my …‘
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‚My teacher doesn’t want me to mention their name … for reasons that I really don’t understand.‘
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So obviously I had a teacher, but he doesn’t want me to mention him.
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It’s not me that is not mentioning him out of disrespect or anything or … a conflict.
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And I left it with that. Then the book had just come out, the ‚Reiki Fire‘.
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Ahh… This is a whole new chapter. I think we better do this a little bit later.
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As you want, yeah. Well, the chapter … the book came out and what you then experienced as a consequence?
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That is an important story. I would like you to tell the story. I would like you to have space and time
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to share with us the injustices which were done at that point. Because the public needs to know that.
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Yeah. Maybe we do it tomorrow.
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Yes. That’s fine.
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Better, I think, because it will take longer and it’s very multifaceted.
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But perhaps we jump ahead once since we’re talking about the teaching issue.
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To answer your question. So we don’t forget.
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Translation: AI
Transcript: René Vögtli
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