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Finding Chiyoko Sensei
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‚The door that had opened to the traditional Reiki closed …‘
‚So? What’s the problem? Come.‘
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I want to change the subject a little bit.
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We were going back a little bit in history when you met Chioyko Yamaguchi.
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I had the sense that she was very important to you.
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I had the sense that getting in touch with her was also a reset for you of some sort.
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Or maybe more precisely the fulfilment of some longing, some ..
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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What happened was this: I had this very superficial contact with Koyama sensei.
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Just one phone call. Not much.
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Then the contact with Ogawa sensei was always through a third person, through Shizuko Akimoto, my friend.
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And we had planned for me to meet him. But by the time we were ready to do it, he had passed away. He was 93.
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So Koyama sensei died in, I think, in ’98, in the end of the year. Ogawa sensei, two, three months before or after. Around the same time.
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So the door that had opened to the traditional Reiki closed as easily as it had opened. And then I found myself thinking, ‚Okay, what now?
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I don’t have that connection anymore. I know that I would really like to learn traditional Reiki.‘
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Because of my … not because it’s better, but because of my personal life. I’ve been around Japanese people from when I was 18.
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Close to them.
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In love with them.
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So it’s for me, it suits me. It really suits me.
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Not because it’s better than any other Reiki but it suits me. It suits my life.
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So I thought, ‚I wish I could learn with one of them.‘ But I didn’t think my chances were very big.
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Because being a foreigner it’s very difficult to get into a traditional Japanese art.
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So when Ogawa sensei and Koyama sensei had died I thought, ‚Phew. And now what?‘
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Very soon afterwards I was given a book by one of Toshitaka Mochizuki’s students, Aoki Sensei, also from my lineage somehow.
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In it he had an interview with one of Hayashi Sensei’s students
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which turned out to be Chiyoko Yamaguchi. But her name was not mentioned.
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At the time the Reiki circuit was still small. We are in 1999.
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All the important players in Reiki we all knew each other, of course, and most of them came through my lineage anyway.
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So, the first person I called when I read the book was Toshitaka Mochizuki. He said,
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‚I don’t know who it is but I know Hiroshi Doi knows it. Why don’t you call him and ask him? He knows who that is.
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He has seen her. He had told me.‘
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So I called him and I said, ‚Hey, in Aoki sensei’s book, do you know who that is and if they are teaching?‘
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He said, ‚Yeah, I give you the number.‘
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So I got her phone number from Doi sensei.
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And I went there … Um! … I called …
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We called her – not I – we called her soon after that. First carefully.
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Chetna on the phone saying, ‚Oh, I read the book.‘
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Yeah, doing the Tai Chi, the Japanese telephone Tai Chi.
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So she said, ‚Oh, I read your book and me and my husband would like to do training with you if you …
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Do you train people? What is your schedule?‘ … and … and … (mimicking conversation)
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‚By the way my husband is a … Foreigner!‘
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(laughter)
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I was listening on the speaker phone thinking like, ‚Oh, now the door (slam sound)! I will eat …‘
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The Greeks say: you will eat the door. In the face.
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But no! Tadao sensei was on the phone and he said, ‚Well does he speak Japanese?‘
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Chetna said, ‚Yes, he speaks Japanese.‘ He said, ‚So? What’s the problem? Come.‘
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We made an appointment and they had a group coming up but he said,
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‚Sorry, it’s already … fully booked but in the next one there’s some space. You can come.‘
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I said just out of curiosity, ‚How many people do you take?‘ I was thinking like 40-50 or something. He said, ‚Six.‘
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‚And when is the next training?‘
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‚In six months.‘ And I was calculating thinking, ‚Oh, 12 people per year that’s not a very busy teaching schedule.‘
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Translation: AI
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