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Between Two Worlds
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‚I’m wondering if I, in my professional world, I also failed fusing East and West … Maybe the two, after all, don’t mix.‘
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2001, the early 2000s, we’ve reached in our conversation.
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Politically, in the world out there, what happened was Vladimir Putin delivers a historic speech in Berlin.
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The 9/11 attack in New York.
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The Euro became available in hard cash.
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The second hottest year on record, 2002.
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And ever since then it’s become hotter.
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If I imagine your biography, how you developed, everything you told us so far,
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and we’re about the year 2000, and you are now in contact with the Jikiden Institute,
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that must have been like a haven to you.
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You must have felt like coming home after also the antagonism you’ve had and the unanswered questions
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which the Western Reiki styles offered and had no answers.
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And all of a sudden, you were there.
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So, describe to me a little bit how that felt, how that was for you.
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So, let’s start with the practical aspect of that question.
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For example, in the first book in the ‚Reiki Fire‘ and the second, the ‚Reiki legacy‘ in the third,
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okay, things start to change a little bit, the ‚Usui Handbook‘.
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But basically in the beginning, I could tell you how Reiki is not practiced and what is not true,
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but we had very little knowledge of what was true, how it was practiced, because I didn’t have a formal training.
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So, then when I met Chiyoko sensei, suddenly I had the teacher who was willing to take me on as a student
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and show me how it is really done in a traditional way.
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This for me was fantastic. This is what I wanted.
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I was also feeling uncomfortable saying all the time, well, this is not it, this is not it, but what is it?
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And I learned that from her, how to do traditional style treatments.
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That was, like you said, a haven for me, it was what I had desired.
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So, I came, kind of came home with that.
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Your longing, if that is the right word, this is my word, I’m putting maybe a word in your mouth,
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your longing for this home – and we know that Jikiden Reiki then became a huge success after the formative years, 1999 to 2000.
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I suggest that your longing for this home was a kind of an energy, was kind of a fuel, which made Jikiden Reiki the success it became.
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Phew! I don’t know. I really don’t know. I mean, I know that I did a big part in propelling that forward.
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I know that. It’s clear. But if it was because of me, I don’t really like to think so.
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You know, I’m not so important, I think. Okay, I play a role, like all of us plays a role. I don’t mean roleplay or theatre,
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but we are all part of this big mechanism, that’s what I mean.
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And everybody has a certain job to do, and my job seemed to be kind of that.
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So, let’s go back to the beginning of the 90s for a moment.
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The first time – or end of the 80s – first time I went to Japan, I thought, ‚Okay, now here in Japan, what are my options?
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I can work at the language school, I can work at the bar attracting people, I can be the animal attracting an audience.
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Both of those things I didn’t really enjoy. So what I dreamt of was actually what you did. I dreamt of something like having a gallery.
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That would suit me, because I love beauty in all its emanations, whether the beauty is a person or it’s a thing,
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a piece of furniture, a painting, a chair, a car. Whatever. Beauty is really what gets me. I’m like, ‚Wow!‘ You know, I love that.
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So I had an idea for many years to start a gallery because I’m traveling a lot and to buy beautiful things and then to sell them
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but in the beginning in Japan I thought, ‚What do we have in Germany, let’s say, that we don’t have in Japan? I could bring those things.‘
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‚And what do we have in Japan that we don’t have in Germany? I could bring those things.‘
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One of the things the Japanese had which I found so useful were
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little plastic thingies with a kind of a hook that you can hang your underwear on.
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Little plastic things like a circle out of plastic with ‚Wäscheklammern‘ with …
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Pegs.
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… pegs and you could hang your underwear.
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I thought, ‚Wow, what a fantastic thing‘ So I was thinking, ‚What can I do, import-export?‘
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Then in America I saw that they had tape measures.
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I thought, ‚Wow, fantastic.‘ In Germany we still had yardsticks at the time.
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We didn’t have tape measures. Everybody had this extendable stick and I’m thinking, like,
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‚Where are we in the medieval days?!‘ So I thought all the time, how can I do an import-export business?
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And I did very well with that in the world. So for example, every time I went to India, I would buy silver jewellery and sell it in Japan.
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Bracelets from Rajasthan from the desert, silver stuff, silk dresses, silk saris, you name it.
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I’ve always liked doing that. And then suddenly I realized with Reiki I did exactly the same thing.
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I imported the Western Reiki into Japan and then I exported the traditional.
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And with Jikiden Reiki this is what I did. This was my import-export business.
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I don’t mean it in a business sense now, but that’s how it developed.
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I brought one thing from one place and took another thing from another place.
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So that seems to be my role. And my role was also to fuse or be the bridge between East and West.
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I’ve tried it in my life in so many different ways. In my personal life I failed to fuse East and West.
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I was hoping the relationship would last forever. It didn’t.
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And now I’m wondering if I, in my professional world,
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I also failed fusing East and West because it’s complicated. It’s very complicated.
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Maybe the two, after all, don’t mix. Who said that?
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‚Fusing‘ is a strong word or a very definite word. You used another terminology, ‚bridging‘ …
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Yeah, bridging. Okay.
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Which, even if relationships fail or if you’re referring to your position which you resigned from,
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and one could look at that as a failure, the verdict is still out whether that is a failure or not,
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but let’s describe it so for the moment. Then, yes, maybe it’s failed to fuse, but the bridge is established.
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Maybe. I hope so. I would like to think in that way. I’ve, of course, been thinking about that recently,
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thinking like I put so much energy into that bridging of the East and West, and I’m aware of the fact that really it’s all about,
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in my head, how to bridge the intuitive and the intellectual maybe. So it’s all part of a really big inner picture also,
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something that I tried to do for a long time, to integrate left and right hemispheres in the world.
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Something like that. So it’s been an interesting exercise and sometimes difficult, very difficult.
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Because for the last few years, the last many years actually, the last 15 years, I’ve often found myself sitting between two chairs.
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And that’s an uncomfortable place to be. So I understand the Japanese culture, I understand the Western culture,
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and I’m trying to bring them, help them be together.
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Mediating between the East and West, it’s very difficult. It’s very, very, very difficult.
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You know you spent a lot of time in Asia. You know what it’s like.
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Yeees.
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I also feel that the cultural differences are often abused as excuses. They’re looked at only superficially.
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But no matter what, I think that the effort to build bridges and to communicate with each other and transcend cultural differences,
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I think that’s a noble goal to strive for.
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When I asked about the dichotomy between Western Reiki styles and Japanese, or traditional as you call it, Reiki styles,
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and you longing for a haven, and this longing was a fuel for the success of Jikiden,
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this was somewhat of a loaded question, I have to admit.
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Because … The follow-up question I have to that was, how far – unconsciously – was there the possibility of a …
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a hidden … not a hidden agenda but a motive, a motivation for you to keep up the dichotomy between the two worlds,
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because that field of tension was actually like a fuel, like an energy field from whence the success of Jikiden came out of?
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Not at all. Not at all.
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I always had that desire to bridge the two. Look in my personal life, same.
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I was not trying to keep it separate by having a Japanese wife.
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I was trying to melt it, to mix it. And really what I meant, the fusing is really what I wanted, the fusion. Not just the bridge.
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Yes. You wanted more.
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And that didn’t work.
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Not yet, maybe.
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Yeah, maybe. Maybe not yet. But really the desire was the melting, really the melting into one another.
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And that maybe is a romantic idea and it’s silly.
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Well,…
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There’s nothing wrong with being romantic!
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Yeah. Exactly the point!
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Translation: AI
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