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The Grandmaster Dilemma
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‚When you mix family business and spirituality, it’s tricky.‘
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I’d like to ask maybe another little bit provocative question,
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or rather it’s maybe a comment. Let’s see how you respond to it, how you react to it.
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I already asked about succession, with Tadao in Jikiden Reiki and in your own … And within that question, or behind that question,
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there is a fear, there is a concern in the Reiki community that the hierarchy, if I may call it that, within Jikiden is
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very much developing into something we’ve already seen before, the OGM, the Office of Grandmaster.
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This is something many of us – me included, I have an opinion on that – are not necessarily supporting.
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So this fear of the structure within Jikiden paralleling, or repeating possibly, the development of the OGM. Can you relate to that?
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And if so, can you expand your thoughts?
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It’s really … it’s a tricky question, because we have in our history
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Takata sensei, who was really responsible for saving Reiki after World War II.
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If she hadn’t been there, we wouldn’t know about it, none of us.
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We wouldn’t be sitting here.
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We wouldn’t be sitting here. That’s clear.
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So, she saved it.
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Thank God, she did.
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But then when she … When she passed,
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somebody had to take over.
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It happened to be her granddaughter, kind of natural, daughter, granddaughter, son, husband.
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So, it happened that way. So, the …
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… business …
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the teaching, the business got mixed into a family business. And that’s always tricky.
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With Jikiden Reiki, obviously it’s the same, because it’s a family.
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So, this will be a challenge for those who continue with that, to decide which way they want to go.
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Do they want to be a family business? Do they want to be something else?
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It’s very, very tricky. It has to be considered cautiously. So I don’t know what they are going to do.
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I’m not really concerned either. And I have no idea what I’m going to do.
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And I’m not really concerned with that either.
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We would see. So I can’t really say anything about that. But I see your point. And this is something that Usui sensei,
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in his Kokai Denju, or the public teaching declaration, he addresses. So, from the very beginning of Reiki, that thing is there.
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That dynamic is there. And he said that, ‚Okay, it’s been a habit in the past that somebody who has
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received a spiritual secret as a present from the universe is then using that for the well-being of the financial well-being of their family and
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I’m breaking with that tradition now. And I do a different thing.‘
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And the natural … ’natural‘ human way to deal with this kind of thing is exactly the opposite of what he talked about. Of course. Yeah?
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So if you have a bakery, of course you’re going to inherit it to one of your kids.
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But when you mix family business and spirituality, it’s tricky.
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That’s where it becomes very tricky.
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Very tricky! How you deal with that? And it takes, I think, great emotional intelligence to deal with that properly.
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And I hope and trust that the people involved, whether it’s the Grand Master, I don’t know what it’s called, what did you say? O-M-E-G?
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O-G-M. The Office of Grand Master.
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Oh my God! I prefer to think of myself as a D-O-M.
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Meaning?
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Dirty old man.
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Just kidding.
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Well, we shouldn’t ridicule the expression O-G-M.
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No! I’m just ridiculing myself.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, I hope and I trust that whoever is involved there will find a good way to do this.
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And in Jikiden Reiki the same, I hope and I trust that they will find a good way to deal with it.
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And it’s in transition. You know, the same is true for the O-G-M. There is a transition with Johannes Reindl. Everybody is expecting,
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hoping that there is a transformation, a continuation which benefits us all.
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Like I mentioned, there is a great opening which I’m very joyful about, where he accepts basically every style and he is open to everyone.
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And from what I hear happening with you and Jikiden Reiki, there is a possibility of transformation happening. So let’s see how that continues.
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Yeah, we see how it goes. I have no idea. I don’t know. I can only wish for everyone to untangle this because it’s not easy to deal with.
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So for example, the people who followed Takata sensei, they were taught certain things that were not correct.
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Takata sensei changed – maybe for safety reasons for her own physical …
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Survival.
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… safety, survival. And in that respect that was good.
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But then somebody comes who questions all of that. Me. Of course they get upset.
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I understand that. I would have been upset if I was in their position.
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So when you mix the family business and the teaching, there are loyalties, very…
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Complex.
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It’s very complex.
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To some degree, evolutionarily, it probably is natural and good that there are tension fields, that there are oppositions.
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From polarities something new can grow. So there’s that.
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But I also feel that on top of that we are creating – and that’s where ego and human nature comes into it – we are creating dichotomies …
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we have agendas, we have dislikes … dislikes to people.
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Obviously with reconciliation, we are trying to make amends of this.
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I would like now, if you don’t mind, go to the Bert Hellinger situation, where you did some constellation work,
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which I was excited to hear about, because it illustrated how early – this was, the mid-90s …
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1999.
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It illustrated how sincere … not sincere, how serious you were – and sincere too – but how serious you were
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of taking these conflicts and these separations and these illusions seriously, that you even engaged Bert Hellinger personally.
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I’d like to hear a little bit, because the question I have is: in the energy field of Reiki as a whole – historically – inherently,
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do we have a blemish in our DNA going all the way back to our founding fathers, or Mikao Usui … that it was charged with something …
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… continuously repeating the rubbish of our elders?
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No, I don’t think so. I think it’s all clean.
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It’s just human nature that we get mixed up in ego games and wanting an advantage and desiring for power, for money, for …
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I think it’s just our own … stupidity.
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Like that, I don’t think it has anything to do with the system.
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That’s why I did it. I wanted to see if something is lacking, something is missing.
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One of the things that often leads to conflict in something like Reiki, in an association or in a group of people,
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is when the founding fathers are not seen. We don’t have that problem. We have them.
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They are always here with us. Usui sensei. Hayashi sensei – always present, being filmed with us.
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So I don’t think there’s a problem really. It’s just really ego stuff.
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That ego stuff we are going to have to look at and solve.
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We cannot give the responsibility to somewhere in the past. We are making that. We are creating that.
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And we therefore can also mend it again.
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Can solve it. Exactly!
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Translation: AI
Transcript: René Vögtli
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3:55 Kokai Denju is mentioned also in A21 – Uusi’s vision statement which is anti ‚family succession‘ (OGM)
3:55 Kokai Denju is mentioned also in A21 – Uusi’s vision statement which is anti ‚family succession‘ (OGM)