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A Hell with Nobody in It
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‚Everybody who has been given a soul is connected to source.‘
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So, we could start welcoming everyone to the third day. Thank you very much for being here.
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I guess that pretty much we can cover most of the distance today, failing which we have also a little bit of leeway tomorrow,
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but if we don’t need to use it and we can go and take a hike, that would be perfect too.
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So, let’s not slow down, let’s keep our attentions up. The projects finish in the last 10%.
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I looked at them, but of course that’s true for you and me too, that we keep the energy up in the final stretch.
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What my plans are today, is to pick up on what you suggested also,
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ethics, absentee, secrecy of symbols, some practical things which I agree people – no matter which style – it’s relevant to all of them.
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And in fact, particularly code of ethics is pretty much the same I would like to think.
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Then I still have some of my what I call the green boxes, like making references to what’s happening in the different years.
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I’ll look at the main camera and I have some loose ends. There is a number of questions I’d like to work through,
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even though I know that some of them we have already answered.
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And some of them I know in our conversation, following this introduction, we will answer.
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Loose ends and potentially also looking for elephants in the room, things which we haven’t addressed yet,
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which we think are necessary, that we speak frankly about them to participate to the reconciliation process in the world.
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And if you have any exclusive thoughts or anything you would like to clarify,
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let’s try and get it done today if we can.
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But as I said, we can also summarize tomorrow still.
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Is that okay with everyone?
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Arjava?
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Good. I don’t think I have any original thoughts.
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Because everything that you can possibly think has already been taught by other people.
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So the thing is to learn to access the collective wisdom.
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High art!
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A high art.
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Which is our wisdom.
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It’s not mine.
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People who are able to access that common wisdom, they seem to other people charismatic.
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And some people like that. And some people don’t.
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And I think that potentially each of us has the potential to tap into…
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It’s human. It’s just like Reiki. Like Usui sensei said, ‚Everybody who’s been given a soul can do Reiki.‘
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And everybody who has been given a soul is connected to source naturally.
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And everybody who’s connected to source has access to source.
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So, it’s all of us.
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Yeah. There are terms like collective consciousness.
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These are just labels which are describing what you just touched upon.
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But that’s a nice way to start today by coming to recognize the potential in each of us.
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The viewers as well as ourselves individually.
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The potential to tap into that wisdom as you call it.
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This is one side. The other side is when you tap into that collective source, you are more yourself.
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But everybody has that potential.
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And anyone who has had a deeper experience of the sense of who they are, they immediately realize that we’re all the same.
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That means there’s nobody better. There’s nobody …
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So that illusion of separateness, of … That illusion evaporates.
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It evaporates.
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Finish!
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Finish. I mean, it’s still …
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I don’t think …
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Self-realization is a process.
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I think self-realization is a process. It’s not a finished product.
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I don’t think that one day you wake up … ‚you wake up‘ … Ting! Enlightenment! And then you have that for the rest of your life.
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But I feel that more often it’s like an unfolding process.
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Like a flower. If you could watch a rose or a lotus or something unfold its petals in slow motion.
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And when it’s completely open … (throat slitting gesture)
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Meaning? What do you mean with that?
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You die.
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Ah, that’s the end of it.
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That’s the end of it, because that’s the purpose of this exercise.
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This morning when I sort of mentally … and also was doing my self-treat … and prepared myself for our conversation,
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a Swiss Jesuit priest, Pater Brantschen, came to my mind.
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He is a person who has been significant in my life, even though I’ve never met him personally,
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but … I would come to Switzerland and drive through the Alps, switch on the radio pondering some important philosophical or spiritual question.
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I would switch on the radio and there he was, giving me the answer.
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Or I went to my mother’s house one evening, and he was in a TV show. It was very funny actually,
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because the topic of that discussion, very serious, there were neurologists there and all kinds of serious academics.
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The question was, ‚Is there a life after death?‘
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There were also one or two people there who had near-death experiences, and they shared their experiences.
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And this guy was sitting next to the moderator, this priest.
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He’s also – and that’s maybe why I thought today of him, because he has lived in Japan for a long time –
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he’s a Zen master and the Jesuit priest.
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And actually he has a meditation centre , where he was the founder of a meditation centre here in Switzerland, a very important one.
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In this TV show, he hardly said anything and I suspect the moderator felt a little guilty,
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So, right at the end he turned to him and basically asked him,
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‚Look, you’re Christian and they have the concept of hell. Would you like to say anything?‘
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And this guy sat there for the longest time thinking, like you sometimes.
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Just taking your time to let people suffer in their own juices.
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(whispering:) Let them ferment.
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On TV that was quite something. And then he sort of looked into the camera and said,
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‚I don’t know whether there is a hell, but one thing I’m sure of:
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There’s nobody in it.‘
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He said – and this is why I’m mentioning him –
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he said that … in one of the talks he was casual and he said, ‚If you slap a Caucasian, a European in the face,
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his tears will be salty. That’s true also if in Africa you slap an African, or if you slap a Japanese in Japan.
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And if you cut them, the blood will be red.‘
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When you just spoke about the illusion of separateness and that in the essence,
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we are more united than maybe sometimes in daily life our surfaces lead us to believe, that reminded me of Pater Brantschen.
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And to me that is always an inspiration when I talk about cultural differences, which of course exist
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– and of course you’re a different personality to me – but if we’re going a little bit deeper
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and allow the possibility that separation is pretty much an illusion, we quickly come to that state which Pater Brantschen was describing.
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Everybody’s the same.
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Beautiful, really beautiful, so simple, and yet so difficult to implement in your daily life.
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Because we are driven by desire, we are driven by our dreams, by our lust for power, for domination, for all that. It’s incredible.
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And our insecurities.
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And the insecurity, the fear, the lack, the feeling that I’m not good enough as I am. All of that.
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If we would just take one moment and say, ‚Hey, okay, enough‘, it stops.
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The Japanese would call this moment ’shin.‘
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The sound of silence.
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Of no brain movement.
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That’s probably where the name of the movie or the song came from, ‚The Sound of Silence‘.
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Translation: AI
Transcript: René Vögtli
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