00:00:36.440 –> 00:00:39.295 I wonder whether you know the people on the picture.
00:00:58.120 –> 00:01:01.365 Some of them I know, yes, of course.
00:01:02.607 –> 00:01:08.330 Some of them. The only one that I’ve met is of course, Doi sensei.
00:01:08.330 –> 00:01:09.723 Doi sensei.
00:01:09.723 –> 00:01:12.660 The others I know what they look like, but …
00:01:13.127 –> 00:01:17.730 And we have Phyllis with her wife, Joyce.
00:01:17.880 –> 00:01:19.293 Her I don’t know.
00:01:19.543 –> 00:01:23.520 And we have Hyakuten Inamoto at the back.
00:01:23.520 –> 00:01:29.055 And this is a German gentleman, a scholar.
00:01:30.080 –> 00:01:32.120 I don’t know him.
00:01:33.137 –> 00:01:36.297 Olaf Böhm, his name is.
00:01:46.355 –> 00:01:50.887 He’s a serious historian.
00:02:25.778 –> 00:02:31.802 I’d love to see such a picture and have Tadao Yamaguchi on the picture as well.
00:02:49.598 –> 00:02:58.498 The repetition of what I sense happens in Japan amongst Japanese Reiki teachers. It is like a repetition
00:02:58.498 –> 00:03:02.748 of what happened almost in the 90s in the West.
00:03:25.237 –> 00:03:30.153 So when I met Chiyoko sensei and Tadao sensei,
00:03:31.020 –> 00:03:41.082 I had the impression they didn’t really realize what they had. In terms of Reiki.
00:03:42.040 –> 00:03:47.599 Tadao sensei often was looking at me or Chiyoko sensei was looking at me going like,
00:03:47.599 –> 00:03:52.752 ‚Why you make such a big deal of Reiki? It’s the most simple thing in the world.‘
00:03:52.960 –> 00:04:02.920 Which on one hand was the innocent way of … the innocent way they dealt with it.
00:04:02.920 –> 00:04:15.585 And on the other hand, it was also somewhat ignorant. They didn’t realize how special their life, their family really was.
00:04:15.585 –> 00:04:21.840 Because they didn’t realize how big this had become outside of Japan.
00:04:21.840 –> 00:04:23.360 They really had no idea.
00:04:23.360 –> 00:04:29.400 The first time I went to Taniai to Usui seinsei’s birth village,
00:04:29.400 –> 00:04:38.223 probably nobody knew that Usui sensei, one of them of this small place, was known all over the world.
00:04:38.648 –> 00:04:40.645 They had no idea.
00:05:40.732 –> 00:05:47.298 And part of the conflict, I am sure, is this: jealousy. Part of it.
00:05:47.382 –> 00:05:52.340 But I’m also sure that not all of it is that.
00:06:57.480 –> 00:07:04.105 It’s never just one is right and the other is wrong. There is no such thing.
00:07:05.588 –> 00:07:15.825 There was, of course, Arjava, the moment in, I think, 2017 when you were quite … public.
00:07:16.400 –> 00:07:28.867 When you released very controversial statements. I’m not even wanting to go so much – unless you want to delve into it – into the content.
00:07:28.983 –> 00:07:34.600 But it certainly polarized a lot of reactions.
00:07:34.600 –> 00:07:48.029 And I think it was involved … or it may have caused even a development which ended in a, I believe, even legal stalemate
00:07:48.029 –> 00:07:53.158 between the Yamaguchis and the Hyakuten Inamoto.
00:07:55.200 –> 00:08:08.892 Can you share how you feel today about it and how can we share something with our audience to mend this?
00:10:39.713 –> 00:10:45.777 How can this conflict between these two parties, how can it be resolved?
00:10:46.160 –> 00:10:49.770 Can be resolved by them talking to each other.
00:11:46.320 –> 00:11:54.710 So if people don’t talk to each other and if they don’t work things out between each other, there is nothing we can do.
00:12:05.880 –> 00:12:12.980 I’m not entirely sure whether that argument I can accept, because it affects all of us.
00:12:14.622 –> 00:12:25.645 To any culture, association who says, ‚This is our internal matter, leave us alone. You don’t understand anyhow‘, I say,
00:12:25.645 –> 00:12:36.497 ‚Well, careful! You’re integrated into a bigger self.‘ Particularly if you teach internationally in this case. You interact with others.
00:12:37.922 –> 00:12:47.330 And also when you at the same time teach inclusiveness or non-separation, I mean, there’s a lot of contradiction there.
00:12:47.330 –> 00:12:52.063 That’s why I’m saying, it’s all too easy to say, ‚Well, it’s theirs.‘
00:12:53.163 –> 00:13:00.996 But maybe that’s only a nuance because what I hear more importantly than my own nuance here is
00:13:01.088 –> 00:13:05.058 that you’re saying it would be good if people spoke with each other.
00:14:06.480 –> 00:14:16.683 No, I’ve learned this in my life that when people have conflicts with each other, I leave it respectfully with them.
00:14:18.400 –> 00:14:24.520 They are to take care of it. And if they do, great [Gassho], nice, good job.
00:14:24.520 –> 00:14:28.300 And if they don’t, that’s too bad.
00:14:28.300 –> 00:14:31.280 But what to do?
00:14:31.280 –> 00:14:37.217 But don’t take those conflicts onto yourself.
00:14:38.400 –> 00:14:48.950 So if I have a friend whom you don’t like, that’s fine. If I have an enemy whom you like, that’s fine.
00:14:56.483 –> 00:15:07.185 Let’s leave the … in German we have such a good word for that: ‚Altlast‘.
00:15:07.468 –> 00:15:09.893 It means like an old debt.
00:15:09.893 –> 00:15:10.960 Old burden.
00:15:10.960 –> 00:15:19.402 An old burden. Leave those things where they belong … with people and don’t take it.
00:15:19.843 –> 00:15:21.400 Onto your own.
00:15:21.400 –> 00:15:27.858 So now we come to reconciliation again, our subject.
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