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Carefree childhood
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‚I would wake up, my father screaming … How is it possible
that we don’t learn? How is that humanly possible?‘
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I want to start chronologically, as I said,
with the beginning. That’s your birth, basically.
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So unless you want to tell us about previous incarnations,
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we can more or less start in the year 1960.
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I’m particularly interested in the
time until you became a teenager.
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And my follow-up question will be your teenage time.
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And I’m particularly interested also in:
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What kind of values have your parents instilled in you?
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So it’s not just a question of, you know, the outer circumstances.
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I’m also curious what you think your parents
represented in terms of values which you feel
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were present at conception or at least
were instilled in you as you grew up?
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All right. So. I don’t remember the moment of my birth. Okay?
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That’s unusual! You have a good memory. And I believe you have a diary where you record things pretty well.
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Yeah yeah yeah. But anyway.
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My childhood, the first few years, the first
years until I went to school, we were really carefree.
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I didn’t have any worries. I grew up in a middle
class environment in Düsseldorf in Germany.
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My parents are both landscape architects. So we
never lacked anything. There was always enough food,
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there was enough clothing, they weren’t wealthy
but everything was provided and I felt protected
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and loved and this is the most important thing.
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In my childhood, the early childhood, what I remember
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is that we were left completely to our own devices.
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We were free. There were cows and horses everywhere.
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We grew up near the Rhine, there were
big meadows and it was just beautiful.
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Very carefree, very relaxed kind of childhood.
So, these were the first few years.
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Then I entered elementary school. That was still okay.
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I could handle that easily without doing anything for it.
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The trouble started when I entered high school.
The ‚gymnasium‘ we call it in Germany.
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At the age I think eleven or something like that.
Then it started to become difficult because I had
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acquired a habit not to do my homework but to
just go play in the fields, play with the cows and
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horses and play with my friends but not do what I was supposed to do.
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When my mom asked me, did you do your homework?
I always said yes, yes, yes, done, done, done.
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But I never did. So after a few years of that,
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I had to repeat a year of school because I didn’t pass the exams.
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I must have been fifteen or sixteen, sixteen maybe.
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And I repeated it and then the next year, they kicked me out of high school.
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They said: ‚No you’re just not fit to be here.‘ So, they kicked me out.
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So …
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That was the end of my schooling. Not very favourable.
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Wait at this point of time, we’ll come back to it.
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You’re one of three siblings I believe …
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I’m one of three siblings. My sister of whom we will
probably talk later on again, she died as a baby.
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She was the elder so I never met her but I miss her. Even now.
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Then came my brother, Martin.
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And then three years later, me.
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The values my parents instilled upon … well, at least upon me – I don’t know about my brother –
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were progressive. They were both social democrats, easy-going, warm-hearted.
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It was all good. And I grew up from early childhood with natural healing.
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My maternal grandparents they really loved homeopathy.
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So, from childhood on I was used to homeopathic
treatments instead of medical science.
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So I have had from my upbringing a kind of
a soft spot for that, some understanding of that.
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Who’s still alive of your grandparents, parents?
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Nobody.
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Nobody. Both your parents passed away.
Martin is of course still around.
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He is around. He is somewhere in Berlin. I don’t have much contact with him.
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So, your parents, of course … You know, sometimes when
I’m in Germany I can feel, or people even tell me,
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how their parents after the Second War, they
still carried a lot of guilt and some very active memories.
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In fact, I grew up with my grandmother and her husband
who is my dad emotionally even though
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I’m adopted basically by him or was, he has
passed away. He served actively at the border
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in the Swiss world war … in the world
war at the Swiss border – that’s how it is.
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But I hear from you that your parents
seem to have been very much looking forward.
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They had obviously a profession very
close to nature which obviously affected you
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and they provided a carefree youth for you.
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Of course there were also difficulties.
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One of the difficulties was that my dad finished
high school and from high school went straight to Russia.
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In the war. He was born1921.
In 1938 … in 1939 he was drafted.
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I didn’t know.
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Just after his high school diploma and then he spent all the war years in Russia. He got heavily
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injured twice. He almost died and then he spent three years in the Russian prison camp after that.
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So he came back in 1947 and he screamed until I was 15 about. He screamed every night dreaming
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of the war. Every night I would wake up from my father screaming from the top of his lungs.
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That made a big impression, a big impression on me.
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I remember him telling me:
‚I will make sure you will never go to the army.‘
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And I didn’t. I went to court instead. We’ll talk about that later maybe.
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Well, I thank you for telling me that. Actually,
my biography is somewhat similar. My biological father
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– I found out much, much later in life –
he was a prisoner of war in Siberia.
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So, very similar to your parents.
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They went through incredible times and when I see what’s
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happening now in the world with the war in Ukraine and in the Middle East, I’m just thinking how
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is it possible that we never learn? How is that humanly possible? Because I grew up with the
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results of what that does to you.
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8:02-8:24: Inna’s insistence to insert the quote «.. how is it possible that we don’t learn» (08:13) may be a hint in which direction the main-feature goes.
See also Sabine’s comment in ‚A57 The Absurdity of Old Grudges‘ … die Sünden unserer Väter …
Arjava and I both are sons of soldiers in WWII – and pacifists. Does this have potential for a dramatic side-story to underline the need for peace and Inna’s message?
04:23 and 5:26: Arjava’s brother played a pivotal role in Arjava’s Reiki history – one which this interviews sheds thus far unknown information. Arjava seems to have been in awe of his brother but eventually was betrayed by him. Is Arjava carrying a grudge? These scenes seems to hint at the tension.